Episode 174

Beavis and Butt-Head Do America (1996)

In this episode, I’m joined by Dan and Jared from the Concessions Podcast to explore the cultural significance of Beavis and Butthead Do America. We share personal connections to the film's absurd humor and discuss its satirical take on 90s American culture as Beavis and Butthead embark on their outrageous quest for a stolen TV.

Our conversation covers the duo’s contrasting personalities, the film's impact on youth nihilism, and its standout voice cast. We reflect on the film's relevance today and whether new audiences can appreciate its unique blend of humor and societal critique. This episode celebrates the enduring charm and complexity of this iconic animated film.

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Transcript
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Track 3: Beavis and butthead i don't think have free will at all or.

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Track 1: That that or they are utter.

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Track 3: Agents of of complete free will.

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Track 1: Oh so so

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Track 1: for for listeners that are maybe curious i'll probably you

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Track 1: know keep this part and then i'll do the intro but we we

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Track 1: myself left the projector and dan and jared of concessions just recorded an

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Track 1: episode on arrival we're talking about very complex things and uh We are not

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Track 1: going to be talking about complex things during the next however long it takes

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Track 1: to discuss the film at hand, which is Beavis and Butthead Do America.

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Track 1: So get ready for unadulterated fart jokes, boob jokes, and me describing the

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Track 1: meme where Butthead is in the Criterion closet. And he says,

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Track 1: well, which one of these has boobs?

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Track 2: Where actually that reminds me.

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Track 3: Evan's in the closet.

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Track 2: That reminds me, you know, I'm thinking like, oh, great.

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Track 2: Like now, you know, this is going to be if someone turns this on and they've

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Track 2: never heard of the concessions boys before, this is going to be the the impression

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Track 2: that we leave out there to your deeply intelligent scholarly listeners.

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Track 1: Yeah.

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Track 2: That my my mom would finally listen to one of our episodes.

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Track 2: She's like, I don't think it's for me. I think it's a little adult.

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Track 2: Like, you know, glad you're having fun.

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Track 2: But like, I don't think I'm listening. saying oh like what episode did you listen

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Track 2: to you know what episode my sweet sweet

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Track 2: mother started as like a taster

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Track 2: for what this our show is like it was

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Track 2: bo's afraid the freakiest kinkiest mommy issuist movie that we probably have

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Track 2: ever done and that's what sweet sweet mother i'm not going to use her real name

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Track 2: because because you don't need to know my mom you don't know my mom no one gets

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Track 2: to know my mom but me but my sweet mother and.

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Track 3: It reminded dan of the time where like uh his mom had never read a single one

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Track 3: of his book reports or his essays in school and finally she picked one up and

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Track 3: she was like this is a little weird dan and it was his his take on oedipus.

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Track 2: Yeah yeah yeah but it's weird that like all of my uh everything i wrote in high

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Track 2: school somehow always related to oedipus i mean i don't know.

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Track 3: Yeah oh my god that reminds me of my all-time favorite stand-up comedy joke

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Track 3: and uh Dan actually watched this special with me but it doesn't have a punchline

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Track 3: it's not like a set up and misdirect or anything the joke is just Freud's mom

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Track 3: must have been so fucking hot laughter,

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Track 3: that's Anthony Jezelnik.

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Track 2: That's gotta be like one.

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Track 3: Of the greatest jokes ever written.

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Track 1: Hello and welcome to Left of the Projector. I am your host, Evan,

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Track 1: back again with another film discussion from the left.

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Track 1: This week on the show, we are diving it back to the 90s, to 1996 for the classic

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Track 1: Mike Judge film, maybe my favorite Mike Judge film, that is Beavis and Butthead, Do America.

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Track 1: And with me, I am back on the show for numerous time, numerous collaboration.

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Track 1: I have Dan and Jared of Concessions Podcast. thank you and uh you will not score

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Track 1: on this podcast unfortunately well.

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Track 2: Has any podcaster ever scored.

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Track 1: Oh oh.

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Track 3: Yeah who here has had a cavity search who's who's his mind the briny depths oh.

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Track 1: But yes uh i appreciate you uh coming on and as i mentioned the intro we just

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Track 1: recorded an episode on arrival so this is like the the opposite booby there

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Track 1: could be any two opposites it would be this yeah.

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Track 3: We just had this big meaty meal and this is our our dessert this is our our

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Track 3: little our little tiny glass of port it's but it's not important.

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Track 2: It's like no it's like pixie sticks or like just.

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Track 3: Some bullshit candy yeah.

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Track 1: Oh yeah for some reason we're snorting whatever no not that's what about things

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Track 1: a little uh the thing where you dip the thing into the sugar Fun dip. Fun dip.

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Track 2: Or you dip sugar in sugar.

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Track 3: Yeah, and then you were like washing it down with a Baja blast.

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Track 1: A joke caller.

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Track 2: Where on top of this, the backstory about how we all found each other is that

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Track 2: I found on Rev Left Radio that he posted an episode that he did with Evan like

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Track 2: a year ago or so on a Tarkovsky film.

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Track 2: So as of right now, the last recording that Evan has on his channel is them

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Track 2: doing Mirror, which also was just like an incredible, wide-ranging, like...

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Track 2: deeply like human conversation about like what it means to fucking be alive

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Track 2: and i'm glad that you saved those conversations for uh brett and amanda.

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Track 1: And we.

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Track 2: Get beavis and butthead.

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Track 1: Well it would even be funnier if this episode had come out immediately following

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Track 1: mirror it didn't for for anyone listening for anyone uh it will not come out

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Track 1: in that order but that would have also been very funny but yeah this is uh so

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Track 1: that like so well maybe before we do before we talk about my opening question

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Track 1: about Beavis and Butthead.

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Track 1: Do you want to tell us about concessions for anyone who may not know?

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Track 2: Yeah.

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Track 3: Go ahead, Dan. No, no, you. I insist.

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Track 2: Oh, I concede to you. You should do it. No, I got it.

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Track 2: Where this started as we both met at a job up in Seattle and we realized immediately

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Track 2: that we couldn't shut the fuck up about movies in a way that made everyone else

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Track 2: scatter while the two of us are still left chatting.

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Track 2: So then I moved from Seattle. I now live in Southern California,

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Track 2: and we just kind of kept talking.

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Track 2: And what was apparent is that we come to movies from two different angles.

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Track 2: And Jared, being someone who has actually worked in the arts and worked in theater and,

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Track 2: Writes music and accomplished artists, but he would never say so.

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Track 2: He comes through the craft side because, you know, he intimately understands these things.

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Track 2: And so, like, has much more insight on, like, the nuts and bolts in movies and

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Track 2: how they work and why they work and what makes them successful.

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Track 2: Where I come through it from more of a conceptual side.

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Track 2: My background's more in, like, sociology and humanities.

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Track 2: So, I would always look at it from that angle. So,

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Track 2: you know, there would be times where we sort of mismatch or our viewpoints would

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Track 2: be slightly different in ways that might cause one person to concede,

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Track 2: one could say, their opinion to the other one.

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Track 2: So funnily enough, it started, we saw something more, I wouldn't say combative,

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Track 2: but we were purposely trying to find like, well, I like this movie and you don't like this movie.

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Track 2: So we're going to try and hash it out where now it's just like,

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Track 2: let's just talk about movies we like together. And here we are.

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Track 3: Yeah. Yeah. It's turned into just the classic, hey, we're friends and we haven't

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Track 3: seen all of the movies that the other person has seen.

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Track 3: So let's like make sure our friend can see all these great movies.

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Track 3: The episode, like, you know, ironically, it doesn't happen all that often.

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Track 3: But the episode we just did on arrival was like a true to the spirit of concessions

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Track 3: where Evan was a detractor and we tried to get him to like a movie more than he did before.

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Track 1: Yes well you can go i won't tell you what

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Track 1: happened i won't spoil that so you should go listen to uh

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Track 1: the our discussion on arrival but as

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Track 1: like a much more light-hearted film beavis

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Track 1: and butthead do america i'm curious not necessarily

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Track 1: maybe your history of this movie like when you saw it but i'd be curious if

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Track 1: you either of you watched beavis and butthead you know in the 90s or like when

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Track 1: you came across it and you know if or was this the first you know uh i'm trying

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Track 1: to think what year did the show come out probably like 94 95 i.

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Track 3: Think yeah something like that 93 or 94 i think then the movie was what this.

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Track 1: Movie talking about now.

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Track 3: Is 96 yeah yes so before this movie came out i definitely,

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Track 3: seen Beavis and Butthead. I wouldn't say extensively.

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Track 3: I think when Beavis and Butthead first came out, I was like six or seven.

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Track 3: And I was a big MTV watcher, like a major connoisseur of music videos and just watched a lot of MTV.

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Track 3: And Beavis and Butthead would sort of invade my music video time here and there.

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Track 3: And I don't think I was allowed to watch it, but it

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Track 3: didn't stop me and I do remember being

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Track 3: sort of like afraid of it in a way like

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Track 3: it was too gross too weird too

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Track 3: like gory like all that stuff when it first

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Track 3: came out that it like disturbed me as a kid you know and I

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Track 3: still get that feeling watching it now where I get the ick from

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Track 3: it even though it's like so fucking tame compared to

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Track 3: so many things that I've watched as an adult um but

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Track 3: yeah i definitely watched it as a kid

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Track 3: i watched this movie fairly shortly after it came out and the playground at

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Track 3: my elementary school it was a common occurrence for you know a kid to pull their

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Track 3: shirt up halfway over their head throw their arms in the air and announce themselves

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Track 3: as the great cornholio that happened all the time at my elementary school yeah.

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Track 2: Uh so for me i was Definitely one of those kids that couldn't even watch MTV.

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Track 2: So I sure as shit couldn't watch Beavis and Butthead.

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Track 2: And it was one that I kind of, strangely enough, my nerdy ass kind of agreed with my parents.

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Track 2: Where I remember like, you know, just flipping through the channels.

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Track 2: Maybe everyone's while I'll pop up.

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Track 2: And kind of to Jared's point too, where it's like, I was used to kids cartoons.

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Track 2: And I was never used to adult cartoons that are like deliberately grotesque.

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Track 2: that like the point of the humor is like look how fucked up these like weird

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Track 2: looking chinless son of a bitches look like and like their voices are really

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Track 2: off-putting and they're just nasty and like you know i was used to like looney

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Track 2: tunes and spongebob where everything is like happy and fun and bouncy and so i think just like i'd,

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Track 2: It was not one of the shows where I was willing to break my parents' rules and

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Track 2: sneak around to watch it, which every cool kid actually did.

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Track 2: But that one, I was like, nah, leave it aside.

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Track 2: So actually, watching this movie this past week is the first time I've ever

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Track 2: actually sat down and directly engaged with anything featuring Beavis and Mr. Head, first name butt.

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Track 2: But I think it definitely filled in a lot of gaps where like,

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Track 2: oh, like what Jared said, that's what cornholio comes from.

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Track 2: Oh, that's why people called their assholes their bungholes.

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Track 2: I now understand. Or even just the where I remember just a quick like side story

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Track 2: that there was one weekend in college where there was like everyone went home except for four of us.

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Track 2: And me and one of my buddies, like we just stayed in my place or my dorm and

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Track 2: played video games for the other two for three straight days.

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Track 2: From the moment they got up to the moment they went to bed, they just hit the

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Track 2: first episode of Beavis and Butthead and just went.

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Track 2: So for the entirety of that year, they would just be like, hi, baby.

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Track 2: Just and I didn't know where it came from because I didn't know these people.

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Track 2: I just thought they were being fucking idiots, which they were.

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Track 2: They were just getting it from even greater idiots.

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Track 3: Dude, that reminds me so much of watching this over the past week.

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Track 3: So I watched the movie this past week. I watched maybe like 10 episodes of the

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Track 3: original series. I watched a few episodes of the 2022 series.

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Track 3: And I didn't quite get to Beavis and Butthead do the universe,

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Track 3: but I will soon. I have two friends that...

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Track 3: they're you know roughly the same age like they're they're millennials

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Track 3: or elder millennials and they never

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Track 3: knew each other before i introduced them to each other but like

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Track 3: one of them basically has like

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Track 3: almost like this social tick where he'll like to be funny

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Track 3: kind of put on this butthead like affect uh yeah

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Track 3: and uh he does it a lot and like

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Track 3: i picked it up from him a little bit for a while and then

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Track 3: i have another friend who they don't know each other at or they

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Track 3: didn't know each other at all they they they're like quite close now

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Track 3: but he's did the same thing but with like a beavis like affect and i guarantee

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Track 3: you there's got to be millions of people who are like currently like 35 to 45

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Track 3: that can say the same thing like either themselves or they have friends that

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Track 3: just like picked up one of those personalities well.

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Track 1: So so yeah well to to that point so i'll tell like a two-part story so i came

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Track 1: across beavis and butthead i was i'm like a family a little older so So this

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Track 1: came out when I was 11 or so.

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Track 1: And then maybe two years later when I was 13, I was at like the McDonald's at

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Track 1: the mall after school with some kids from school.

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Track 1: And they're making like Beavis and Butt-Head jokes. I'm like,

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Track 1: I don't know what the fuck these guys are talking about.

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Track 1: And they're like, oh, you've never seen Beavis and Butt-Head?

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Track 1: I'm like, oh, no. And then I asked my parents if they could like I could watch this show.

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Track 1: And they're like, absolutely, you cannot watch this show, which made me want to watch the show.

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Track 1: Of course, I want to watch the show. And so I did anyway. I would watch it.

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Track 1: and it just became like i think it's someone they're like they didn't care anymore

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Track 1: they're like oh whatever it's just there's worse things you could be doing

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Track 1: i guess you know than than watching this and i

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Track 1: had a friend at the time who described the show as like oh you need to watch

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Track 1: that he was definitely coded as like the butthead guy like that's how he kind

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Track 1: of acted and then i was always like oh i wonder like who's the beavis like in

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Track 1: this scenario and i never really i guess if you don't know who it is i guess it's you right i'm.

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Track 2: About to say it's not that you are.

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Track 1: I was serious yeah so were.

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Track 3: You were you uh were you like a pyromaniac as a kid.

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Track 1: No definitely not did you score not and not not when i was 13 perhaps,

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Track 1: loser oh man but yeah so and then i i

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Track 1: think i my parents actually let me see this movie in

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Track 1: the theater which wow in retrospect like i

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Track 1: they let me see a lot of like i saw

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Track 1: like the exorcist with them when i was like 11 so like they're like

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Track 1: their perception of like what was acceptable for movies

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Track 1: was generally as long as there wasn't like explicit sex

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Track 1: in the movie like it was a fine like it could be gory it

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Track 1: could be horror movie didn't matter standard american parents yeah and uh maybe

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Track 1: not as uh as like uh as open as beavis and butthead's parents as we learn in

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Track 1: this in this film as motley crew roadies or whatever in it but yeah i just remember

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Track 1: like i feel like Beavis and Butthead was like a formative...

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Track 1: thing in like my middle school life and

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Track 1: i actually have a one last story that i'll tell is that the original run

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Track 1: of this show ended in 1997 and i

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Track 1: remember to this day where i was when i watched

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Track 1: that episode because i was in new york city visiting my

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Track 1: uncle and we're at some deli like heading dinner and and i'm like mom we have

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Track 1: to get back to the hotel because it's the last episode of beers and butthead

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Track 1: and they'll and then like i don't think we're gonna make it and they put the

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Track 1: show on the tv at the bar of this like deli and i sat there and watched the

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Track 1: last episode of beers and butthead the original run like at this deli and does.

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Track 3: That deli still exist.

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Track 1: It does not.

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Track 3: Oh oh that's a bummer what's what's there now do you know.

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Track 1: I think it's probably like a starbucks i don't know actually probably.

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Track 3: Yeah and like condos above it.

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Track 1: Yeah it was like a it was like one of those it was in like the deli district

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Track 1: in new york where there was like the stage deli deli.

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Track 2: District god damn.

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Track 1: Yeah or i don't know if it's still anymore there's just like all the big old

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Track 1: famous delis where you get like the pastrami sandwich that was you know a pound

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Track 1: of beef for you know named.

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Track 3: After some celebrity that no one's heard of.

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Track 1: Yeah 50 years yeah it's like the woody allen or something i don't know yeah it's not.

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Track 3: As good as the roman.

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Track 1: Polanski which.

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Track 3: Is not as good as the kevin spacey which isn't anywhere near as good as the diddy.

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Track 1: Oh i'd rather I'd rather order the David Lynch, personally.

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Track 3: Oh.

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Track 2: That would actually be a delicious, wholesome.

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Track 3: Yummy dream.

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Track 1: Yes. Yes. That was meant to be like, I'd want to have that sandwich.

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Track 3: Yeah. It would come with Cheetos and a couple of cookies and a Coke.

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Track 2: Oh, that'd be so nice.

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Track 1: Yes.

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Track 3: Yeah.

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Track 1: And you could have, what, cherry pie to wash it in.

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Track 2: Oh, yeah.

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Track 3: Oh. That man loved his food.

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Track 1: He did. He did. uh but yes like that's just like my memories of the of this

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Track 1: and so like there's nothing i can do to separate like middle school from this

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Track 1: and i also then watched daria like a little bit did either of you ever see that in like retrospect i.

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Track 3: Didn't oh god oh no i just i watched it and i was you know i i combined it in

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Track 3: my head with beavis and butthead here and there because they're both on MTV

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Track 3: and they're both about being an adolescent and all that stuff.

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Track 1: Yeah, Daria was much more interesting. Actually, like a good show in that it actually had,

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Track 1: you know like morals and like you know

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Track 1: lessons lessons you could learn and and

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Track 1: i just recently acquired the we won't

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Track 1: say where the uh full full show daria and

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Track 1: what's interesting is that it like just like beers and

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Track 1: butthead they had music videos and songs that weren't licensed to be released

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Track 1: like in the future on you know dvd or whatever so you can find on the internet

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Track 1: the daria show with the original music which is like has like hole and like

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Track 1: oh good ass shit in there so i definitely suggest anyone to go check out daria it's.

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Track 3: Literally a spinoff right like daria.

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Track 1: Is like their classmate daria is a classmate she the pilot episode is her moving to a new town,

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Track 1: like and then she has to you know has a brother and they like you know navigate

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Track 1: that as a you know teen teen girl which is more interesting than beers and butthead uh but.

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Track 3: Man that's so interesting that like daria and king of the hill both sort of

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Track 3: spun off from beavis and butthead and both of them are so much like more serious

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Track 3: and introspective and stuff.

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Track 1: And good like king of the hell is really a real i'm doing a rewatch of king

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Track 1: of the hill right now i'm on like season two it is just a fantastic show yeah.

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Track 3: It it's it's actually besides the episodic comedic like sitcom nature of it

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Track 3: it's also a great ongoing serial drama.

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Track 1: It's uh yeah it's um it's like a pretty layer but it was first on i didn't like

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Track 1: it i thought like oh this is like a redneck show that i don't want to watch

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Track 1: before the simpsons comes on but now i'm like oh this is actually see.

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Track 2: I didn't like it because you know like i said with beefs and butthead like as

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Track 2: a kid i had a very specific idea of what cartoons were which is like you know

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Track 2: fun zany like wall-to-wall jokes kind of entertainment And so when this,

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Track 2: like, and especially this adult show, so like, you know, for,

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Track 2: for when I was growing up, like adult animation was family guy.

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Track 2: So when I watched King of the Hill, I'm like.

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Track 2: this is boring i don't what's going on here like this isn't even this is hardly

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Track 2: even inappropriate it's like where where's like the the violence and fucked

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Track 2: up stuff like this is just kind of like a like a normal show just animated yeah

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Track 2: now that i'm older i appreciate uh king of the hill and don't like family guy as much anymore yeah.

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Track 1: I i'm i'm the same way i liked family guy when i was you know when it was on

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Track 1: but now i prefer uh which i guess is it still on tv family guy.

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Track 2: Is it still Yeah.

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Track 3: Oh yeah. It's ongoing.

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Track 2: Oh my God.

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Track 3: As is South park as are the Simpsons.

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Track 1: Yeah. The Simpsons will be the first one to end though. Primarily because of

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Track 1: like people dying and you know being old and such.

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Track 2: You think they'll just let that cash cow go because somebody dies.

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Track 3: Yeah. I mean they've had like they've had they've endured major cast members dying.

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Track 3: They've endured one of their primary like showrunner

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Track 3: writer's room guys dying i mean maybe we'll see what happens like the in the

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Track 3: darkest timeline it'll just be perpetual via gen ai and uh no i mean maybe no

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Track 3: one will watch it but like the audience will also be gen ai it'll.

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Track 2: Be a great asset you know they can put in their portfolio.

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Track 1: Well here's another question i have about beers and but and maybe like this

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Track 1: may be different for you dan is,

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Track 1: Do you think so? Well, maybe that, maybe not watching this film in 2025,

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Track 1: you know, this is an, like a very 90s show.

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Track 1: It's very much like stuck in that time. Like you said, all these jokes and words

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Track 1: that people just say now that are just kind of part of like the lexicon.

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Track 1: Like, do you think it like holds up even though it's like a potty mouth bunch

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Track 1: of like 15, 16 year olds that literally the entire film is them like trying

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Track 1: to have sex with the me more?

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Track 2: I mean I think it holds up as like a basically as

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Track 2: like a time capsule and also because like the show

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Track 2: also knows it's dumb as shit like it's not trying

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Track 2: I don't think it's really trying to make much of a statement where

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Track 2: it's like it's very obvious like these two kids are like misogynists they're

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Track 2: like completely self-involved they're you know problematic to a T even before

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Track 2: that word really even existed but it's like you kind of let this one slide because

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Track 2: it's just so obvious like the the the writers of the show are We're so obviously in on it.

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Track 2: It's like, you don't, you don't grow up and want to be like Beavis and Butthead,

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Track 2: but when you're like, and that's what I remember from the show when I was like

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Track 2: 13, 14, like it's more fun,

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Track 2: just kind of reveling in like the stupid, like the stupidest shit to piss off adults.

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Track 2: And that's what this show basically does.

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Track 2: It's, you know, adult writers and creators making a show that would piss off

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Track 2: parents the most. And like, that's kind of the fun of the cartoon is you're,

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Track 2: you're indulging in that.

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Track 3: Yeah, totally. And it's like clear it's, you know, Gen X commenting on its own brain rot.

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Track 2: Yeah.

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Track 3: Right. This is like a decade plus of music videos.

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Track 3: And these kids basically only have the attention span for like a three to five minute music video.

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Track 3: And like there it's, you know, it's self-effacing in like a way that's very

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Track 3: generational. but then you know like,

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Track 3: you can easily apply it to you

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Track 3: know millennial brain rot and social media or like

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Track 3: gen z brain rot and like tiktok and content

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Track 3: served in 30 second clips and like i wasn't

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Track 3: surprised at all to find out that the 2022 show instead

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Track 3: of watching music video well they do watch music videos but it's

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Track 3: like mike judge's not famous friends music videos but

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Track 3: they are like mostly watching like tiktok videos and

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Track 3: uh commenting on them and it's like yeah that that rubs me maybe like a little

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Track 3: bit wrong where it's like oh gen x is now like commenting on gen z's brain rot

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Track 3: instead of their own brain rot but like i think it still holds up just given

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Track 3: that generational lens and how self-effacing it is well.

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Track 2: I think on top of like you know the self-effacing brain

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Track 2: rot of like you know at this point like cable tv was a sort of new thing like

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Track 2: the the beavis and butthead like the generation they represent are sort of the

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Track 2: first generation of people to be raised on 24 four hour content or like you

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Track 2: can watch TV pretty much up to sundown.

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Track 2: Now the TV from like 1am to 6am kind of sucks. But like, if you wanted to,

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Track 2: you could just glue yourself to the TV like that.

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Track 2: Cause they now have, you know, full blown cable, you know, reflected by stations

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Track 2: like MTV, which are providing that.

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Track 2: But I think while it does, it does totally do that. I'm not going to,

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Track 2: I'm not mitigating that, but it also, which I think is why it has staying power.

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Track 2: Like it shows the joy of like pop culture. And it shows why people love it so

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Track 2: much, particularly in the music videos.

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Track 2: Because, like, those are the clips I've seen just passively,

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Track 2: you know, having a phone on the internet.

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Track 2: It's like Beavis and Butthead commenting on music videos. And,

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Track 2: like, they sincerely love, like, heavy metal and music and stuff like that.

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Track 2: And you're seeing, you see, like, before it really, like, pop culture was really fascinating.

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Track 2: Respected as like a something more

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Track 2: than just like disposable entertainment where i think we have more

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Track 2: of a sense of that today to like respect the craft of the craft of like a bubblegum

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Track 2: pop song i think when that was still like like uh devalued as like oh this is

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Track 2: kitty shit this is like for dum-dums like it's showing yeah it's a little stupid

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Track 2: but like there is sincere joy in it as well well.

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Track 1: It's it's also funny like i think of like you also think about oftentimes gen

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Track 1: x is referred to as literally the mtv generation.

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Track 2: Yeah like it's pretty.

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Track 1: Comical in a sense of like a bunch of gen x people making a show on mtv about

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Track 1: like their own generation and their own like you know.

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Track 2: A kid ruined by mtv yeah.

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Track 1: Like the yeah the shortcomings of it and and uh yeah i mean i I always,

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Track 1: when I watched it as a kid, I always found the music videos to either be like

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Track 1: the best part of the episode or the absolute worst.

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Track 1: Because if it was like a good song that you liked, you're like,

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Track 1: oh man, like I want to hear this song.

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Track 1: But then if it was like a really shitty song, like even their dumb jokes about

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Track 1: it, like weren't enough to keep me like hooked for that, for those two minutes,

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Track 1: which is kind of ironic given like the commentary.

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Track 2: Uh while you were watching it were these music

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Track 2: videos was this a source of like new music being exposed to you and broadening

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Track 2: your taste out like i think of how like you know someone my age is a little

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Track 2: younger that was tony hawk for me where the playlist would like expose me to

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Track 2: new music or maybe you know people a little younger than me that could be like guitar hero yeah.

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Track 3: It didn't work on me that way.

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Track 2: I mean i i'll would i'd never be saying like oh my so people like no one would

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Track 2: say oh my taste in music was influenced by butthead or oh no.

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Track 3: No no i'm saying specifically mine was not.

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Track 2: Oh you know.

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Track 3: I did end up liking heavy music um years later but i would say that for the

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Track 3: most part like i would say the average like feedback about beavis and butthead

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Track 3: is a lot of people used it as a music discovery.

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Track 2: Mechanism and.

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Track 3: It definitely like made a cultural impact in that way.

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Track 1: Yeah. I was going to say, I think that there was a lot of songs that I had never heard of before.

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Track 1: And like, there's a lot of, I mean, this was a time when you would like actually

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Track 1: we're getting, you know, music videos.

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Track 1: Everyone was, that's how you expose the world to your song.

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Track 1: And then, well, I guess that in the radio, you know, or, or,

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Track 1: you know, as a way to hear it without having to buy anything, you know?

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Track 1: So there were lots of music that I heard for the first time on, um,

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Track 1: you know, on it. And actually I, another distinct memory I have is there was

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Track 1: actually a Beavis and Butthead, um, CD.

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Track 2: I'm looking at it. The Beavis and Butthead experience, which has artists like

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Track 2: Nirvana, Anthrax, Megadeth, Run DMC, White Zombie, Primus, Chili Peppers. Oh, wow.

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Track 1: Yeah.

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Track 3: I had, I had that.

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Track 1: I, I got this, I got that CD for Hanukkah when

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Track 1: I was 11 years old as the CD that can't

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Track 1: so i got a a disc man and

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Track 1: with the disc man as my gift was this cd that

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Track 1: rocks and i remember this is like the coolest thing ever you know like i didn't

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Track 1: really like megadeth that much or anthrax but i like rocked out to those songs

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Track 1: because they're on the cd and yeah i think that was like it sold a ton i think

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Track 1: it's it's a two million copies yeah.

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Track 3: It's a good compilation album wow that that's okay so that is the first time i heard primus.

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Track 1: Same was was.

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Track 3: Was the beavis and butthead experience and primus is one of my all-time favorite

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Track 3: bands and that song that's on there that's like not on any of their albums and

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Track 3: i haven't thought of that song poetry and prose in a very long time.

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Track 1: I know but.

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Track 3: I immediately can can like remember the entire thing.

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Track 1: After this i'm going to add this entire cd to my like playlist so i can listen

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Track 1: to it tomorrow on the like on my way to work like so yeah i think that like

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Track 1: the that's what maybe makes the the movie,

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Track 1: and even the show as well, just like as a collection of this moment when you

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Track 1: were exposed to not just like potty jokes, but also it was a way for MTV to

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Track 1: place, it was like product placement before in a way.

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Track 1: Like there wasn't any other product placement on this or even in the movie, I don't think.

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Track 2: Well, and I wonder how curated that is. Like, is this Mike Judge and the team

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Track 2: like specifically curating these songs or is this coming down from MTV?

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Track 2: Like, oh, this song's hot, we want to push it.

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Track 3: Yeah, well, what I was saying earlier is the new series is it's clearly Mike Judge.

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Track 3: And I don't know. I mean, Headbangers Ball was a big deal at the same time.

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Track 3: So like Heavy Metal was like, you know, it in the early 90s and like along with

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Track 3: grunge and stuff and some pop punk.

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Track 3: And yeah, they covered all of that. So I assume it would be a blend.

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Track 1: Well, also, so the album was actually thought of because like the guy,

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Track 1: David Geffen, who owned Geffen Records or music group, whatever, I guess Geffen Records,

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Track 1: it was his idea to have a CD in conjunction with it when he saw how popular

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Track 1: the show was and how they were using music videos.

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Track 1: He's like, oh, what if I just released a bunch of my...

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Track 1: clients on a cd and then made a bunch of money off it and that's what he did.

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Track 2: There you go.

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Track 3: And he's a producer on the movie and.

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Track 1: The show.

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Track 3: Too i think i think it's all geffen productions on the show and the film.

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Track 1: Which also then makes me wonder if initially a lot of the music videos are his

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Track 1: like people who were released albums on geffen records i don't think it's exclusive to that but i bet i.

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Track 2: Sniffed some synergy going on.

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Track 1: Here yeah and like also like deciding like were they allowed to make fun of

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Track 1: a song that was on Geffen Records I mean I think they probably were you know I mean or.

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Track 2: Like to take it easy on those.

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Track 1: Yeah I mean the songs that they make fun of are always like are usually like

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Track 1: songs that I'm like oh man this song blows.

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Track 3: Oh yeah it would take a huge huge fucking nerd to like sue a record label about

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Track 3: a song that makes fun of them right.

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Track 1: If anything it's free publicity a.

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Track 2: Fucking loser if you ask me a fucking loser probably a pedophile or even worse a Canadian yep.

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Track 3: Yeah i agree i think.

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Track 2: We're thinking of the same person.

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Track 1: Yeah that well and so as like as part of the like the the film i remember this

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Track 1: i mean this was like this was maybe one of the first actually i'm trying to

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Track 1: think about was this the first show like cartoon show that like spawned a movie oh.

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Track 2: Uh i mean were there.

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Track 1: No looney.

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Track 2: Tunes movies or anything like that but well especially like a one aimed at older

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Track 2: audiences i mean i'm sure beavis and buckhead but was it rated r.

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Track 1: No it was actually rated pg pg i think so i think so i'm gonna look that up

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Track 1: to confirm but i think it was rated pg because there's they don't ever say that

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Track 1: they don't ever say the word shit,

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Track 1: there's never the only word that they say that would be deemed like inappropriate would be ass yeah.

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Track 2: Is this a god damn.

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Track 1: Oh, God, I love that joke so much.

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Track 3: That's a great one. It's so stupid.

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Track 1: There are just so many.

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Track 3: There are Flintstones feature films in, like, the 60s.

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Track 1: Okay.

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Track 2: But especially not one aimed at audiences older than.

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Track 1: Like, When did the real Flintstone movie come out, though?

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Track 2: Oh, with John Goodman?

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Track 3: Oh, later than that.

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Track 2: Yeah, that's, like, a 90s movie.

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Track 3: Later than Beavis and Butt-Head, I mean.

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Track 2: No, that's a good point.

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Track 1: No, 94.

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Track 2: Oh, really?

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Track 1: Wow, that shocks me.

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Track 2: But like the, you know, the specific kind of TV show to movie where it's not

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Track 2: like a family kind of comedy.

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Track 1: Oh, definitely the first adult one. Like for sure. Like they were doing.

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Track 3: Yeah, definitely.

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Track 1: South Park.

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Track 3: South Park was three years later. Yeah.

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Track 1: Yeah. I was going to say.

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Track 1: But like that, that doesn't exist probably also without this too.

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Track 1: I mean, I don't think like Adult Swim probably exists without Beavis and Butthead. Well.

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Track 2: Oh yeah. I mean, even just the, you know, the idea of marketing a cartoon at

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Track 2: someone older than kids or putting it on a station that isn't like,

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Track 2: you know, Disney Cartoon Network or,

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Track 2: Nickelodeon, which are, I don't even know if Nick was out at the point, but you know.

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Track 3: No, no, no. No, Beavis and Butthead spawned Nicktoons as well.

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Track 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Track 3: There weren't cartoons on Nickelodeon before Beavis and Butthead because then

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Track 3: MTV started doing other cartoons and then Ren and Stimpy was one of them.

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Track 3: And then that transferred over to Nickelodeon along with Doug and the Rugrats.

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Track 3: And so literally there's like a direct cause and effect of like Beavis and Butthead

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Track 3: is successful. Nickelodeon starts showing cartoons.

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Track 2: And you can see it very clearly in the style of humor that you find in Nickelodeon,

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Track 2: which, you know, is still very influential today is like kind of what I was

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Track 2: saying is the appeal of Beavis and Butthead.

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Track 2: And then you get to like a more watered down, like sanitized version with those

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Track 2: early Nicktoons, which is like, oh, this is the kind of stuff that like parents won't understand.

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Track 2: And like, this is going to annoy your mom when it's on.

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Track 2: She's going to tell you to turn it off because this is too extreme.

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Track 2: dream like nick that was nick's ethos through the entire 90s.

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Track 1: What's funny about that too is if you think about some of

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Track 1: those and that they weren't really being like i

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Track 1: don't think that ren and stimpy was being targeted at adults it was being targeted

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Track 1: as kids but like weirder than that but if you think about those like that that

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Track 1: made that like those things that you said uh jared like that's how you could

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Track 1: get adult swim too because those were cartoons that were literally targeted towards adults,

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Track 1: not just like softly targeted towards them.

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Track 2: And basically pulling on the same threads of an audience that grew up on MTV

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Track 2: cartoons, on Nickelodeon cartoons, or even like the Cartoon Network cartoons

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Track 2: of the 90s that like by the time they, you know, got to like maybe 15, 16, 17,

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Track 2: then Adult Swim was still like, hey, we're going to give you the same kind of humor.

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Track 2: We're just going to punch it up to make it a little bit more adult,

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Track 2: a little bit more raunchy.

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Track 1: Yeah, it's funny. The Adult Swim was launched the week before 9-11.

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Track 2: Was it really?

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Track 1: I remember. I remember watching it in college.

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Track 2: Cause and effect. Oh, well, actually, this reminds me of this.

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Track 2: I forget if I've told you this running theory, but I've told Jared this,

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Track 2: where most adults, I would say right now between the ages of 30 and 40,

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Track 2: I can put them into three major buckets.

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Track 2: You were a kid that either grew up watching Nickelodeon.

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Track 2: Cartoon Network or the Disney Channel? And I'll tell you now,

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Track 2: if you grew up watching the Disney Channel, you're probably a conservative.

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Track 1: Interesting. I need to, whenever I meet someone, be like, which one did you watch? And then be like.

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Track 2: Perfect. Where everyone watched all three. Where I was firmly a Cartoon Network

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Track 2: kid. That's where the freaks were.

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Track 1: Oh.

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Track 3: Speak for yourself. I don't think I... I never watched the Disney Channel.

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Track 2: I had four sisters. So I would watch the Disney Channel from time to time.

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Track 1: There was one show on Disney that I watched. I feel like I liked,

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Track 1: uh, Tailspin. Was that a Disney show?

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Track 2: Oh, well, now you're talking about Toon Disney, which is slightly different.

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Track 3: Oh, yeah. Let's not even, like, get started on, like, the non-cable ones.

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Track 3: Like, network television, Saturday morning cartoons.

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Track 2: That was my shit. DCS and stuff like that? Yeah.

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Track 3: No, no, no. I'm talking about Batman and the X-Men. Muppet Baby, Spider-Man.

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Track 2: Pokemon.

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Track 3: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Gummy Bears.

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Track 2: Gummy Bears fucking A.

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Track 1: The Smurfs.

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Track 3: Bouncing here and there and everywhere.

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Track 2: But anyways, my point being is if you grew up and you're a Disney kid,

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Track 2: you are definitely the adult version. You probably work in HR right now.

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Track 1: Yeah.

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Track 3: And please go listen to the Concessions episode about The Little Mermaid.

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Track 2: Yes.

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Track 1: I listened to that just yesterday, in fact.

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Track 2: Oh, there you go.

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Track 1: It was very interesting. Lots of things about that I did not know.

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Track 2: Look at that. Not only a collaborator, but a satisfied customer of Concessions.

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Track 2: Check it out today, kids.

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Track 1: Yeah. And actually it got me thinking that I also was the Aladdin kid when I

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Track 1: was a, I had a sister and she loved a little mermaid, but I was like,

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Track 1: fuck that. Let's put on the ladder now.

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Track 2: Yeah, it's cool. It's for boys.

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Track 1: Exactly. Exactly.

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Track 1: But yeah, so like, well, this is a, so we didn't even really talk about the plot.

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Track 1: Like, as I said, literally the plot of this movie is that their TV is stolen

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Track 1: and they like stumble upon like the scenario where they're like a,

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Track 1: you know, a like hitman type of person hires them to kill their wife,

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Track 1: which is played by Demi Moore.

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Track 1: And Bruce Willis plays the, like the main, like the very 90s.

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Track 1: Yeah. Very 90s. Exactly. And, like, the wife's name is also Dallas,

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Track 1: which I assume was, like, to be a play on, like, Debbie Does Dallas because

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Track 1: it's beautiful butthead. And, of course, it is.

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Track 1: And they go on their journey across America. They do America.

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Track 1: And they just go and do the most ridiculous things and always end up,

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Track 1: like, you know, being dismissed or, like, accidentally doing something ridiculous. Like, what?

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Track 1: Flooding the Hoover Dam and shit. So, it's just, I don't know.

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Track 1: What do you think are some of the best scenes or things about it?

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Track 1: I have my favorite, but I'll let you go first.

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Track 2: Favorite bits.

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Track 3: There's a very American bit where all the guns come out and they're all pointing

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Track 3: at Butthead. And he's just like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen.

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Track 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Or he's constantly like, when he means cool,

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Track 2: he means, oh, this would make great TV.

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Track 2: Because that's the only thing he can think of.

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Track 3: Right.

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Track 2: I mean, all of the the running bit about them jerking off in that poor guy's trailer over and over.

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Track 2: And then, you know, like the second in command FBI guy trying to not end with

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Track 2: a preposition. That running gag really cracks me up.

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Track 1: I love that joke.

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Track 2: Yeah, it's like we this we are representatives of these United States and we

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Track 2: will not end a sentence with a preposition.

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Track 3: Oh, yeah. So good. But just like that great use of Robert Stack as that main FBI agent.

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Track 3: Yeah, I mean, he like my generation or, you know, the collective generation

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Track 3: that the three of us are kind of all on different parts of like we,

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Track 3: you know, we watch some Unsolved Mysteries, I think.

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Track 3: So like we just associate that guy's voice with dread and being scared and talking

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Track 3: about very serious tragedies.

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Track 3: And then just that he's the guy that's constantly talking about like anally violating people.

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Track 1: Yeah.

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Track 3: Fucking hilarious.

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Track 2: And like a voice of kind of comfort and authority through tough times too.

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Track 3: Yeah, totally. Yeah.

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Track 1: Who plays the like the other actor who plays Bork? Do you know who that is? Oh, it's Greg Kinnear.

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Track 2: Holy shit oh wow this got

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Track 2: it yeah i just saw that there yeah um oh but yeah also just with the running

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Track 2: gag of like this is also something i don't know if teenagers were always doing

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Track 2: this or it was just highlighted more because of beavis and butthead but like

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Track 2: anytime you say any word that like ripped out of context could be a dirty word and they like went oh.

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Track 3: Like yeah that's so good that's.

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Track 2: So true to like my junior high experience i don't know if that came from beavis

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Track 2: and butthead or you know all junior hires are like this but yeah so oh what did he he says the.

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Track 1: The teacher the teacher says uh what it's not you're not here to entertain us and he says oh.

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Track 2: He said anus.

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Track 3: Yeah where.

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Track 2: I remember specifically at like you know junior high lunch table where you could

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Track 2: never tell like you couldn't say the very normal thing is like oh are you gonna to go do it do it.

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Track 3: You want me to you want us to do your wife you're gonna pay us i love you want us to do a guy my.

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Track 1: Favorite one is when they're like why do they keep wanting to see our my unit my unit.

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Track 3: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean he's like like for some reason they want to see my schlong,

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Track 3: yeah uh oh my god okay so uh

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Track 3: i talked about this with uh our friend britta the other

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Track 3: day as i asked her what her favorite uh beavis and

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Track 3: butthead quote was and i actually think it's mine too i think

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Track 3: it's so funny for whatever reason it just taps into like this

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Track 3: primal humor center i have but there's the part where

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Track 3: they're crawling through the desert and it's just like

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Track 3: like you know it's been going on for a

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Track 3: while that part of the movie happens for a while before they stumble upon

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Track 3: their dads um but like they're

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Track 3: crawling through the desert and it's just like there's this great close

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Track 3: up of of butthead and he's kind of like reaching into the foreground and he's

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Track 3: like ready to give up and uh he's just like the sun sucks and it's like so fucking

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Track 3: good like it's like something so deeply funny about that like if.

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Track 2: You're just like exhausted you're fucking over it you're just gonna say the

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Track 2: dumbest thing possible it's like man being outside is stupid Like,

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Track 2: that's all you got to say. Nothing clever.

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Track 3: Well, I mean, the running joke that permeates every joke in Beavis and Butthead

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Track 3: is they are constantly finding themselves in, like, noteworthy or extraordinary circumstances.

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Track 3: And they don't have the mental capacity to appreciate it.

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Track 2: Yeah.

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Track 3: And that's just that joke that is the cosmic joke of the entire, you know,

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Track 3: the entire show, the entire movie, those characters just like in one,

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Track 3: like, very, very economical moment.

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Track 3: And it's like it is the joke of of the movie, I think.

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Track 2: It's art, folks, you know, right up there with James Joyce.

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Track 1: I was also thinking about that scene within the desert when he says the sun

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Track 1: sucks. And I'm like, I can't believe that they wrote this and it's,

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Track 1: it's just perfect. And like, it's, it's not my favorite line.

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Track 1: I think Dan, I mean, you already said my favorite line, which is,

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Track 1: this is a God, is this a God damn?

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Track 1: Like, I don't know. Like that was just always my favorite line as a kid.

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Track 1: Maybe that's just, it's hard to shake that. However, I did just learn.

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Track 1: Do you know where that joke came from?

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Track 2: No. No.

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Track 1: Mike Judge's grandmother would tell him that joke, and he threw it in the movie.

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Track 3: That's cute.

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Track 2: I love that.

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Track 3: That also reminds me of National Lampoon's Vacation, or is it Vegas Vacation?

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Track 3: One of them, they visit the Hoover Dam, and they make the same joke like everybody does.

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Track 3: Yeah, like, where can I get some damn bait?

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Track 1: Yeah. Well, another thing that I just learned from IMDb was that Robert Stack

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Track 1: apparently was so embarrassed that he was in this film, he paid a legal team

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Track 1: to get his name out of all promotional material.

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Track 1: But then later, it was like, actually, this is kind of cool.

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Track 2: Oh, coward. What a coward.

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Track 1: Yeah.

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Track 3: Oh, God. I'm so glad he didn't die a jerk.

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Track 1: Yeah. And also, another thing that I learned is that this was the record breaking.

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Track 1: This movie until the time was the highest box office record for any movie that

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Track 3: Yeah.

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Track 2: I love culture. I love what it says about all of us.

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Track 1: That's just.

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Track 3: Yeah. It would have been the highest grossing animated film of that year if

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Track 3: it wasn't for the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

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Track 1: Oh, I thought you were going to say of all time, it weren't for, like, The Lion King.

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Track 2: Well, I wonder if you take, like, Disney animated features out where Beavis

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Track 2: and Butthead would stack on, like, American-made cartoons and their box office.

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Track 1: South Park has got to be way up there, right?

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Track 3: Behind a ton of DreamWorks and Pixar movies and stuff, but yeah.

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Track 3: Um, oh man, another one of the greatest, greatest lines is when,

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Track 3: when he encounters Chelsea Clinton.

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Track 3: Hey, I noticed you have braces. I have braces too.

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Track 2: I just love the way it goes. Hey, baby. Like he sounds like fucking Elvis or something.

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Track 3: Yeah. We got to see, you want to see, uh, Austin Butler as butthead.

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Track 2: Oh no.

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Track 1: I actually just thought of maybe the one of my other

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Track 1: favorite lines in the movie and it actually like cements the idea of

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Track 1: this film as like the t like the fact that the

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Track 1: entire plot hinges initially like because

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Track 1: they're walking around town looking for their tv and they

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Track 1: steal the tv on the cart too from the school

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Track 1: which is another hilarious thing oh yeah but when they arrive

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Track 1: to what's the guy's name like muddy bruce willis they arrive to his hotel room

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Track 1: and he goes you guys are late and he goes and beavis go or buddy goes really

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Track 1: did we miss baywatch yeah and that is that's just that's just that's that's

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Track 1: just it's gold it's just gold.

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Track 3: Yeah or the other really great damn joke where the the sweet little old lady

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Track 3: is like we're a long way from washington bob this is we're at the hoover dam

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Track 3: and he goes oh well i'll be damned or.

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Track 2: No the the slut slot mix up.

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Track 3: Oh

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Track 1: My god so good i like to play the sluts yeah.

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Track 3: Oh yeah me too i'm gonna buy lots of sluts so stupid oh my god oh my god.

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Track 1: Well or also when they tell what when they tell uh when they tell them his real

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Track 1: their real names and they're like well i guess we'll uh we won't tell you my

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Track 1: real names either because i can't believe their names are beavis and butthead.

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Track 3: Right right right right or Or I just like the rant that like when Beavis finally

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Track 3: reaches his breaking point on the tour bus thing and he's like,

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Track 3: we never score. We're never going to score.

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Track 3: Like this guy's all this dirt and he's probably scored a ton.

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Track 3: And the old guy's like, oh, yeah.

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Track 2: Oh, it's so funny.

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Track 1: Actually, I was thinking the only like maybe the joke, it doesn't like not that

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Track 1: it holds up. But when they go to the White House and there's like a bunch of

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Track 1: like dignitaries from other countries and he's like still with the shirt over

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Track 1: his head, he's like bungolio.

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Track 1: And he's like saying it to one of these like foreign guys, like who's like repeating

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Track 1: it to him, thinking it's like some like, I don't know, he doesn't realize that

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Track 1: he's just some like, you know, 15 year old kid who's like high on.

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Track 2: Caffeine pills and shit yeah or in very like mtv fashion that they they have

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Track 2: like a basically a drug sequence in the middle of it where he eats whatever

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Track 2: the fuck that is in the middle of the desert the like weird cactus thing that's a lot of fun.

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Track 3: Oh yeah oh yeah a little like peyote or what have you with.

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Track 2: The the white zombie.

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Track 3: It goes into like super like fucked up looking almost like Ralph Bakshi-esque.

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Track 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Track 3: Just like pure psychedelia. That's a really, that's really fun.

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Track 3: Like that's like them showing off in the animation department like the one time in the movie.

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Track 1: Yeah. But you're right though. The desert scene was like pretty extended like

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Track 1: while other things were happening along it.

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Track 1: I think the other thing that he says, that Beavis says is like another joke in the desert.

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Track 1: He's like, this sucks. It's all hot and stuff.

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Track 3: Yeah.

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Track 1: Like their entire like, like mantra and like personality is just describing

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Track 1: things in the most like mundane like stupid way but somehow it's funny.

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Track 2: I don't know maybe it's.

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Track 1: Not funny to some people.

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Track 2: That like that feels so true to life of like when

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Track 2: you're just hanging out with like your junior high friends just like kind

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Track 2: of sitting around playing video games or something like you're not spouting

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Track 2: off chaucer or anything like that you're just making the most like you're trying

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Track 2: to make your other idiot friends laugh so you're like saying the most like mundane

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Track 2: stupid things out loud just trying to get your friend next to you go so.

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Track 1: You said it actually was rated PG-13 and apparently they had to re-edit some

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Track 1: of the scenes to avoid an R rating.

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Track 2: Were they like boobs? Did they score?

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Track 1: Well so apparently there's a scene where they're at the airport where Beavis

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Track 1: and Butthead take a sip of his whiskey.

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Track 2: They had to remove.

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Track 1: That because it was like children drinking so.

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Track 2: Well he has a beer I guess he never of actively drinks it where yeah he goes

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Track 2: into the light and he's like I've got a beer oh.

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Track 1: No yeah the beer yeah you're right.

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Track 2: He's like well I forget it's his way but he basically is like I have a beer so we should have sex.

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Track 1: The the and then so i actually didn't say it so i'm actually my favorite

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Track 1: scene not like line in this in the movie is when the

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Track 1: they get thrown in the trunk and they're driving like the last leg

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Track 1: to washington dc and they're like playing with the jack in

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Track 1: the in the trunk and they like launch the the the

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Track 1: the trunk open and they're like deciding whether to jump and beavis or butthead's

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Track 1: like oh yeah it'll be fine like just run like when you like to start running

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Track 1: it's not that bad yeah and when they jumped off the car logic when when beavis

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Track 1: gets pushed out i just literally just was laughing so fucking hard i i that

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Track 1: was i was dead i was absolutely dead.

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Track 2: Evan you know how you've broken both of our brains you said the word jack and both of us went oh.

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Track 3: My god or.

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Track 2: When they accidentally.

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Track 3: Pushed the tv down the stairs.

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Track 1: And.

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Track 3: And they're like but that's like that was cool.

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Track 1: And beavis.

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Track 3: Beavis like beavis is like no it wasn't.

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Track 1: And he goes uh.

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Track 3: Oh yeah like they just trade being the dumber one oh like they're such they're so.

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Track 1: Perfect i.

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Track 3: Don't know about you.

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Track 2: Guys but in my head uh beavis is the brains of the operation.

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Track 3: Yeah yeah he's he's well i view them as mania and depression and so so beavis's

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Track 3: brain works way faster and he like arrives at the illogical conclusions

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Track 3: much more quickly than Butthead does a lot of the time but every once in a while

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Track 3: Beavis is like legitimately,

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Track 3: insightful and Butthead is always just stupid.

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Track 2: Where it kind of reminds me, I mean you'd have to have a third character in

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Track 2: but it kind of reminds me of Ed, Ed and Eddie in a way.

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Track 3: I don't know Ed, Ed and Eddie.

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Track 2: You never saw, oh that was my favorite joke.

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Track 3: I was not a Cartoon Network kid.

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Track 2: I've never actually seen it either. Oh man.

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Track 1: What was the other thing I was going to... I was, like, looking through some of these ridiculous...

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Track 3: We haven't quoted quite the entire movie yet.

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Track 2: No. No. I do want to, like... I guess trying to pull something a little bit

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Track 2: more out of this movie is, like, I was struck by, like... Like,

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Track 2: we were talking about, like, the MTV of it all and, like, the...

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Track 2: the sort of you know self-depreciating humor of

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Track 2: people raised on mtv kind of showing off kids

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Track 2: that got their brain rotted by mtv where i was

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Track 2: struck by like the very like not

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Track 2: millennial uh gen x like nihilism that comes

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Track 2: straight from this which then come i haven't seen it by like i

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Track 2: kind of know the whole shtick of like daria or like a lot

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Track 2: of uh cartoons for teenagers or even

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Track 2: this time that like they're they're sort

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Track 2: of rendered like in this state of like passive nihilism where

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Track 2: like nothing matters like everything's bullshit

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Track 2: like you know very it's telling that they're

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Track 2: like in a texas suburb that's like particularly bland

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Track 2: looking and like the sort of worldview that

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Track 2: would that would you could easily fall into that

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Track 2: it's like well why would i want to go outside and be around my community i'm

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Track 2: in this bland ass like suburb of dallas where nothing ever fucking happens and

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Track 2: there's no community here so me and my dipshit friend may as well just sit on

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Track 2: the couch and rot our brains with tv because that's like all there is available

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Track 2: to us and like this sort of ironic detachment that can grow out of that.

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Track 3: I will i side with their hippie teacher and said well they could read.

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Track 2: Yeah but they're not gonna do like they're not gonna do that you know they're

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Track 2: not gonna and i remember being a kid who like watched way too much tv and that's

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Track 2: like when i'd be like mom i want to keep watching spongebob it's like you have

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Track 2: books upstairs i'm like books that those don't move and make me laugh,

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Track 2: or or it's like oh just go outside like that was the other one too where it's

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Track 2: like mom i live in the fucking suburbs there's nothing out there.

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Track 1: I think that's like the the just generally like the mtv mantra and like i think

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Track 1: of the like the non-cartoons they had like road rules and all these other kind

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Track 1: of shows was like all very much part of that same ethos in a.

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Track 2: Way like.

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Track 1: It just all kind of uh,

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Track 1: I lost my train of thought.

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Track 2: It's all very cool. It's all very hip. It's all very detached.

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Track 2: It's all very like nothing really fucking matters.

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Track 3: And like those were like the original reality TV shows.

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Track 1: Oh, yeah.

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Track 3: Like Road Rules and the real world. And even like current reality TV,

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Track 3: they still like purposely cast people that have that sort of detachment from

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Track 3: anything meaningful or like anything beyond that's like the kind of the most

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Track 3: like surface level character that they're trying to portray.

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Track 2: Themselves as and like the sense of you know immediate gratification for their

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Track 2: behavior like if it doesn't pay off immediately or serve their end within the

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Track 2: confines of the show like oh my god useless behavior yeah.

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Track 3: We're so fucking miserly a few minutes ago we were just quoting the fuck out

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Track 3: of this movie and laughing and now what look at what we've become in our adulthood.

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Track 2: Yeah i mean unfortunately our our frontal cortex has kept going well.

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Track 1: It's funny dan when you were gonna it when you're like taking it like to a slightly

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Track 1: serious and I thought you were

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Track 1: going to actually go to like these are the leftist themes in Beavis and.

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Track 2: Butthead. Oh well kind of where like it reflects

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Track 2: like you know the gutting of neoliberalism where there is no community left

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Track 2: there is no like there is no like social world to join in other than like watching

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Track 2: TV next to your dipshit friend which like that's even more than we have today

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Track 2: where you know if Beavis and Butthead got made Today,

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Track 2: it would be two people watching their own feeds on TikTok that are different from one another.

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Track 2: They might have similar content because they're both brain rot in the same way

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Track 2: if they're sitting next to each other.

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Track 2: But like, yeah, I was even thinking that it's like at least these two kids are

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Track 2: sitting next to each other and having a conversation, experiencing the same

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Track 2: thing at the same time. Like, we don't even have that anymore.

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Track 1: Yeah, they're staring at a screen together.

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Track 2: Yeah, we don't even have that.

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Track 3: They're still staring at one phone together in the new series.

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Track 2: It's kind of nice. But that would be weird. That's not how kids consume media.

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Track 2: That's how no one consumes media on their phone. They do it individually and

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Track 2: even more atomized than the process of atomization was at 30 years ago.

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Track 3: I don't know. My wife and I spend an awful lot of time in bed just like sharing

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Track 3: a whole bunch of like TikTok videos or YouTube videos to each other and then

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Track 3: like sitting there and watching them together on the same phone and doing that back and forth.

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Track 1: Well so i was just thinking so this is going to

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Track 1: like pulling out a tiny thread but the

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Track 1: one thing you like you're see throughout the movie is that beers and butthead

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Track 1: are a bunch of like complete clowns but somehow they like avert danger and they're

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Track 1: like all these things they don't get captured the whole time like somehow they're

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Track 1: like on tv and they go on the nun bus instead of the you know like different

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Track 1: things that like separate them constantly.

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Track 3: Failing upwards full.

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Track 1: Yeah exactly But then you also just think about like the cops in the movie,

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Track 1: the ATF, are just complete and utter morons.

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Track 1: And like nothing has changed.

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Track 2: No. And, you know, I guess if you want to say there's much satire in this is

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Track 2: that, you know, the immediate response to the cops every time is pull out your

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Track 2: gun, check their cavities.

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Track 2: Where what? Even like the, you know, the hippie type teacher is like,

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Track 2: don't I have like a Miranda right?

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Track 2: Like, what are you talking about? We're the cops.

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Track 1: Yeah. well not just that they're like they also they were going to shoot him,

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Track 1: But, like, for no, like, they don't have the thing they need.

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Track 1: They could get information from him, but they're just going to kill him anyway.

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Track 2: Yeah, yeah. Where, uh, the way you're describing, like, generally how Beavis

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Track 2: and Butthead, like, move through this movie and succeed, it's sort of like a,

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Track 2: like a more cynical view on Forrest Gump.

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Track 2: Because, like, that's how Forrest

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Track 2: Gump succeeds through all the movies is just by being a fucking dolt.

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Track 2: and like it's one of those things where you know

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Track 2: as you get older and like develop a more political consciousness where

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Track 2: you you see forrest gump in a different way where it's like oh this is like

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Track 2: a deeply conservative movie that basically says like don't

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Track 2: think too much stay in line don't like

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Track 2: you know think about radical potentials and just do what

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Track 2: the american dream tells you to do and you'll be fine and like this movie

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Track 2: kind of does it does the same thing but it's aware that

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Track 2: that's kind of fucking dumb it's like oh these two characters that you've known

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Track 2: throughout the entire tv show as just like the dumbest kids alive are wildly

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Track 2: successful in this country in do in like achieving their goals and like but that's bad i.

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Track 3: Mean that's the white male experience in a nutshell.

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Track 2: Baby yeah just bungling your way through oh.

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Track 1: Yeah i don't know i mean and so well let me ask you well i have two final maybe

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Track 1: final questions like one would you recommend someone watching this and do you

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Track 1: think as part of that same question like do you think,

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Track 1: someone you know in their 20s would like find this funny or is it like do you

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Track 1: need to have been like older i don't know like is it still funny to like to

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Track 1: someone who doesn't know beers and butthead.

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Track 2: Well i wonder that in like you

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Track 2: know not trying to be the old like well you know they don't make movies

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Track 2: like this anymore because of woke um but there's

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Track 2: like there's like i feel like when i watch a

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Track 2: lot of comedy and things like set for

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Track 2: younger audiences or just like content in

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Track 2: general now it's more the priority is like

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Track 2: possible to consume this thing and make it like it shouldn't rock

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Track 2: the boat it shouldn't um basically take

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Track 2: all the edges off because it's really designed to be in the background which

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Track 2: like i'm not saying beavis butthead is some subversive masterpiece

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Track 2: or whatever but like its whole ethos is to

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Track 2: like assaulting and like very uh

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Track 2: you know to kind of like poke at you a

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Track 2: little bit and like it's not like it's uh what's like i don't want to say it's

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Track 2: hard to watch because it's certainly like stupid like turn your brain off kind

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Track 2: of comedy but it's its brand of comedy is very much like in a almost like a

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Track 2: punk rock spirit of like, fuck you for even watching this.

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Track 2: Like, I hope you feel stupid watching this where that's like not really an ethos

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Track 2: you see in like easily disposable content today.

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Track 2: So I don't want to say it's necessarily bad.

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Track 2: Good like it's not like this is something that will enrich you but it did strike

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Track 2: me that this film is not uh interested in like making you feel comfortable the whole time so.

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Track 1: In that way.

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Track 2: I guess i'd recommend it.

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Track 1: I think they don't really like i hate when i say things

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Track 1: like this but they like they don't make movies like this really

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Track 1: like 85 minute comedies you

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Track 1: know even if it's an animated film like or 81 minutes christ it's like an hour

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Track 1: 20 it's like a barely you know uh and i don't even so yeah i i would say that

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Track 1: anyone should watch this if they haven't seen it before because why the hell not.

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Track 3: I mean if you're if you're at

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Track 3: all still like into you know

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Track 3: your classic dick and fart humor go for

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Track 3: it i mean it's it's 85 minutes of that i do

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Track 3: think though that like modern young audiences do

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Track 3: need more of a hook like they do need like an elevator pitch

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Track 3: a concept that'll be like yes i want to watch that and

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Track 3: this doesn't really have that this is just like watch these

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Track 3: characters who we love behave

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Track 3: the way that we love to see them behave like there

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Track 3: isn't like a there isn't really like a hook that's gonna like if you're flipping

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Track 3: through like if you're if you're used to being able to flip through endless

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Track 3: possibilities of what to watch and like you know the the summary has to grab

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Track 3: you enough to like give it your attention this doesn't this movie doesn't have

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Track 3: that but it's on criterion channel.

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Track 2: It's on criterion channel.

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Track 3: Criterion channel is for the olds like us oh.

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Track 1: No it's on the criterion channel they had a uh they did like.

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Track 3: Probably also on canopy probably.

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Track 1: Is there is an mtv um like uh what do you call it like uh,

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Track 1: what do they call their little things like the programming groups

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Track 1: of films that i don't know they can't think of the term at

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Track 1: the moment but let me tell you how they describe the film it

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Track 1: is it is like canopy so i'll

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Track 1: i'll read this and then i'm curious like for any uh movie recommendations you

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Track 1: have so it says mike judge's mouth-breathing metal head slacker icons peavis

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Track 1: and butthead made their big screen debut in this smash hit animated feature

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Track 1: that takes the series gleefully lowbrow humor to new heights of sneakily smart hilarity.

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Track 1: The boys hit the road on a wild cross country journey to find their stolen television

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Track 1: along the way, becoming mixed up with a murder for hire scheme when they all

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Track 1: really want to get laid and rock out.

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Track 2: That's perfect. I'm sold.

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Track 3: There's nothing, there's no hook there though.

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Track 1: No.

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Track 3: Like, yeah, it's like, Hey, do you want to watch these characters be funny? Yes or no?

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Track 2: Yeah.

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Track 3: I mean, yeah, describe the plot but there's nothing in that plot that like you

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Track 3: know that earns a watch just based on the story right yeah.

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Track 1: I agree with you.

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Track 2: And also the you know the the movie poster doesn't have a thumbnail of a guy

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Track 2: soy facing and pointing behind him going so i don't know how anyone would want

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Track 2: to watch that that's how i know they should like make it.

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Track 1: Red like all those horror movies from 2024.

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Track 2: That people would go see it.

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Track 3: Oh, yeah. I just pulled up the IMDb page. There's a lot of cool voice cameos

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Track 3: in this movie. David Letterman is one of their dads.

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Track 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Track 3: Toby Huss from, well, he plays Cotton Hill on King of the Hill and Khan on King of the Hill.

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Track 3: And he's been in a bunch of stuff. He was in the show Halt and Catch Fire.

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Track 3: He's like one of the thieves that steals their TVs. Eric Boghossian,

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Track 3: acclaimed writer for the stage, whose stage play news radio became a movie,

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Track 3: and he starred in the play, and he's also the star of Interview with a Vampire on AMC.

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Track 3: He's in it as the ranger that's describing Old Faithful, and is like,

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Track 3: yeah, every geyser emits 13,000 gallons of water, and Butthead's like, it's not even that much.

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Track 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Track 1: And then Richard Linklater.

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Track 3: Is their bus driver.

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Track 1: Oh man He's in Uncut Gems right?

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Track 2: Linklater?

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Track 1: No Eric Boghossian.

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Track 2: Oh I was like.

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Track 3: I don't remember him in Uncut Gems But I believe you Yeah he's in Uncut Gems,

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Track 3: His one man shows That are almost like stand up comedy And like theater With

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Track 3: a capital T combined are pretty good and like those are probably just on on

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Track 3: youtube and stuff but yeah uh eric bogosian is also on succession playing like

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Track 3: their uh bernie sanders that's.

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Track 1: Right i forgot about that.

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Track 3: And uh he's a great actor he's he's fantastic in interview of the vampire there's

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Track 3: a he has a lot of a lot of great voice artists in this movie.

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Track 1: So what would you recommend to someone who maybe doesn't want to go as lowbrow as Beavis and Butthead?

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Track 2: Well, it's unfortunate that you said didn't want to go as lowbrow.

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Track 1: But you please do.

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Track 2: We're keeping these brows on the floor. I was looking through like,

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Track 2: what's a comedy that I just, I cannot defend.

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Track 2: I have no, I have no interest in trying to say it's a good movie.

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Track 2: I just watched it at the right time, and I had this on DVD, hammered it over

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Track 2: and over when I was like 13.

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Track 2: It is 2004's White Chicks. What a dumb, hilarious movie. Wonderful time.

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Track 3: I'll see you, White Chicks, and raise you another Wayans Bros.

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Track 3: masterpiece, Scary Movie 2.

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Track 2: Oh, specifically, A Man of Dance.

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Track 3: Oh, yeah.

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Track 2: Yeah.

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Track 3: Yeah, I've absolutely ran my Scary Movie 2 DVD ragged.

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Track 1: All right. So this is a tough act to follow here.

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Track 1: I'm going to go with a film that was released the same year as this movie, and that is Kingpin.

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Track 2: Oh, yeah, that is a good one.

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Track 1: I had that on DVD, and I loved it. It's so absurd.

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Track 1: Probably doesn't hold up. It's been a long time since I've seen it.

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Track 1: But Woody Harrelson as just like the absolute like lowest of the low in the dirt fucking bowler.

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Track 1: And yeah, then you got Bill Murray, of course.

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Track 2: I'm going to recommend directly to both of you. Watch some Ed, Ed and Eddie. It's good.

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Track 3: Okay. Okay. I'll consider that.

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Track 2: I think there's a movie too. Actually, no, I'm pretty sure there is an Ed,

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Track 2: Ed and Eddie movie. But man, that what joy coming out of that movie or show and the movie.

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Track 3: Earlier, I accidentally called Eric Boghossian's like kind of like star turning movie in play.

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Track 3: News radio. It's called talk radio. News radio was it was a sitcom, I think.

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Track 3: But Talk Radio, while we're at it, is a great movie. I think Oliver Stone directed it.

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Track 2: Oh, wow.

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Track 3: Let me consult the IMDb again.

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Track 3: Did he? That's a great movie. And, you know, Eric Boghossian wrote it and stars in the lead role.

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Track 3: And, you know, that's like the best showcase of his talent that I can think

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Track 3: of that, you know, I would recommend to folks who would listen to a movie podcast.

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Track 3: The movie Talk Radio.

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Track 1: I don't think I've actually ever seen Talk Radio. I've seen a lot of Oliver

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Track 1: Stone films, but that's one I haven't seen.

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Track 2: You know, I've never seen a single Oliver Stone movie.

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Track 1: Wow.

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Track 3: Really?

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Track 2: Yeah, a weird gap.

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Track 1: There's some good ones and then some stinkers.

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Track 2: Yeah, I think that's what I hear, which is why I try and, like,

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Track 2: why I'm not leaping to check his stuff out.

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Track 1: Yeah, just like the 80s, 80s, 80s Oliver Stone. And then, like, early 90s, like JFK.

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Track 2: I gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

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Track 1: And for anyone who does like his movies, you could listen to episodes on natural-born killers.

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Track 1: And we also have an episode on his not-platoon movie, and that was Salvador,

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Track 1: which your mileage may vary on that film.

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Track 3: Dan, you have not seen Wall Street?

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Track 2: Nope. I know the big scene from it, but I have not seen it.

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Track 3: Platoon?

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Track 2: Nope.

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Track 3: I've seen it versus larry flint sure haven't oh my.

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Track 1: God natural born killers that.

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Track 2: One i got i that one i've like recently been very interested in checking out.

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Track 1: And any given sunday.

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Track 2: Oh it's not good.

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Track 1: Well no.

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Track 3: I don't think it's good either.

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Track 1: No it's not good i used to think it was good when i was younger oh.

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Track 2: Man so if i miss the opportunity to like it that's a bummer.

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Track 1: I would say if you're going to like pick a single movie to see it's probably

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Track 1: platoon but then if it's not that then i like jfk but.

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Track 3: Yeah jfk and platoon are probably his most acclaimed but i'll add talk radio to that.

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Track 1: Yeah i'm gonna have to see that is good fun yeah that's when he was just more that's more.

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Track 3: Eric bogosie that's more eric bogosian's movie than oliver stones though.

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Track 1: Yeah i mean there's some other movies that he wrote too like scarface there's.

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Track 2: A doc where he spends three days filming with Fidel Castro in Cuba.

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Track 2: That's kind of interesting.

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Track 1: Yeah, then he also does one with Putin as well.

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Track 1: Oh, he also made the Snowden movie, which I have not seen.

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Track 2: I thought, I think I heard it was just, like, fine.

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Track 1: Yeah, I don't think it was supposed to be that great. But that,

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Track 1: yeah, I've discussed on the other episodes about my feelings more deeply on Oliver Stone.

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Track 1: I have some, he's an interesting man, and I think, I was actually discussing this.

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Track 1: I don't think, like, the political climate of now could exist for him to make

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Track 1: a movie anymore. i think it's like he can't make any more movies yeah.

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Track 2: Because i like that's what i i've heard like two main different uh narratives

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Track 2: about him where like basically it's like oh he's an old out of touch boomer

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Track 2: and also like oh he's like a raving communist and i'm like well is it one is

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Track 2: it both like what's going on here.

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Track 1: He's kind of like oh gosh i'm gonna think about this we won't we won't we won't

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Track 1: uh we don't we don't want to make this too highbrow here dan this is uh yeah oh.

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Track 3: That's true we're so far away from beavis and butthead now we're like four degrees

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Track 3: of separation from beavis and butthead.

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Track 1: But if you listen to this episode uh in full you will hear many boob jokes and

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Track 1: uh i guess you've already listened to it so it's too i'm gonna cut that part

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Track 1: i guess it's making no sense you've already heard the boob jokes the fart jokes the score jokes but um,

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Track 1: if you told me that we could make an hour plus episode about beers and butthead

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Track 1: do america i would have told you you are a moron but i'm.

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Track 2: Very very impressed with.

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Track 1: What we did it folks we we uh you can i'm just going

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Track 1: to shut the podcast down here can't go any better than

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Track 1: beers and butthead do america we don't need to do any more no more andre tukarovsky

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Track 1: for anyone here we've we've peaked we've peaked at uh beers and butthead do

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Track 1: america but um dan and jared i appreciate your commitment to Beavis and Butt-Head to America and our,

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Track 1: podcasting evening, I guess we'll come to a close.

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Track 2: Oh, well, we're a little dumber for it, and I'm glad about that.

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Track 3: I just need to say a couple more words before we go.

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Track 1: Oh, please.

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Track 2: Which ones?

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Track 3: Butt cheeks.

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Track 2: Unfortunately, that started as an ironic laugh and just turned into a real one.

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Track 1: Oh, boy.

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Track 3: Yeah, and boobs. I want to say that one more time boobs.

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Track 1: The the the ass what is it like what is it the thing with the donkey like the

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Track 1: poops coming out of the ass of the ass.

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Track 2: Yeah it's oh my god it was so fucking stupid.

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Track 1: But uh if if you uh were able to listen to us talk about beavis and butthead

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Track 1: you will also like listening to uh dan and jared talk about more serious films

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Track 1: on concessions and also perhaps left and perhaps also on left of the projector.

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Track 1: Thank you both for being here today.

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Track 2: It was a blast.

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Track 3: Thanks for having us. Please invite us back again, and we will do the same on concessions.

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Track 1: Yes, we will do something more serious. I promise you. I don't think you can

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Track 1: go any lower than views on my head.

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Track 2: I was like, low bar to jump over there.

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Track 3: That's true. We'll try to find even lower.

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Track 2: Even dumber.

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Track 1: We'll do biodome. Is that what you're saying?

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Track 3: Yeah, we'll find something lower for you next time you're on concessions.

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Track 2: Where we won't do dumb and dumber, we'll do dumb and dumber-er.

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Track 1: Which is like just.

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Track 2: A bad movie.

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Track 1: I'm not gonna say that son.

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Track 3: Of the mask.

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Track 2: So like not only stupid but just objectively bad.

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Track 1: We'll do we'll do yes man which is like the opposite of liar liar but uh you've

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Track 1: all been listening to left of the projector and we'll catch you all next time.

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